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> Форм-фактор
Является точной копией Dualshock 2 (джойстика для PlayStation). Удобный и ностальгический.
> Отсутствие люфта кнопок
Не уезжает и не залипает. По крайней мере в моем экземпляре.
> Сборка
Не отличная, но хорошая.
Недостатки:
>> Главное
> Отсутствие поддержи XInput
Только DInput, поэтому не определяется как геймпад в большинстве современных игр (даже после установки драйверов из коробки/сайта), но исправимо через костыли.
[!] Важно: Как это исправить я коротко описал ниже.
>> Второстепенное
> Кнопки 1-4
Скажем, это не очень важно, но все же непривычно - путаешься.
> Запах горелого пластика
Только если вы засунете джойстик в нос.
Комментарий:
>> Делаем сие чудо рабочим (видимым в играх)
Исправляется это при помощи программы XOutput (спокойно находится в поисковике с гайдом) - эмулирует джойстик от XBox 360, то есть любая игра будет видеть существование джойстика в системе и работать с ним. Советую ставить версию 1.1 или 1.7, так как они стабильные (у меня возникли проблемы с установками других версий).
Не советовал бы использовать другую программу, как x360ce, так как много мороки с копированием программы и созданием нужных .dll для работы в корневую директорию игр и неизвестно сработает ли это с другими играми (тестировал на Crash Bandicoot - N Sane Trilogy), но как вариант.
Надеюсь немного помог.
Почему поставил все же оценку 5? Потому что за свои деньги Defender предлагает отличный вариант. Настройки видимости в играх через программу не составляет большого труда.
Дмитрий Киржаев, подскажите пожалуйста, сын играет в танки на ноутбуке, хочу подарить на день рождения, этот джойстик подойдёт? Или другой посоветуете?
Дмитрий Киржаев, подскажите пожалуйста, сын играет в танки на ноутбуке, хочу подарить на день рождения, этот джойстик подойдёт? Или другой посоветуете?
- проводной геймпад за 300 рублей. ТРИСТА, КАРЛ. Дешего @ сердито
- проводуля коротковат (метра полтора +-)
Недостатки:
- геймпад за, внезапно, 300 рублей. Виброотклики, сенсорные панели, три оси акселерации, лазерный дальномер, холодильник, беспроводное подключение - всего этого нет. Шо ви таки хотели за эти деньги?
Комментарий:
Отличный джойстик. Даже нет, это не джойстик, это демо-версия времяпрепровождения.
Покупаете его. Играете в 3-4 игрули, в которые хотели поиграть с джойстиком. Понимаете, насколько классно жать кнопки джойстика, когда руки отдыхают на бедрах, а не скрючены на клавиатуре. Далее делаете выбор: либо вам хватит этого дефендера, чтобы разок в месяц не запариваясь поиграться во что-то простенькое, либо решите, что вам нужен беспроводной йоба-геймпад а-ля х-бокс и вы готовы перед игрой проводить некоторое время на танцы с бубном и настройками. Затем покупаете консоль, диван и большой телек. Привыкаете к стикам и автоприцеливанию в шутанах. Рубаете в Форзу и UFC по выходным с корешами. Периодически чувствуете на себе взгляд вашего старенького запылившегося комплуктера, который похож на брошенного верного пса с его клавиатурой и мышью.
Но начать этот путь однозначно советую с этого дефендера. Как-то так.
Брал чтобы играть с сыном в платформеры на ПК, покупкой доволен!
Для корректной работы на windows 10 нужно:
1) Поставить драйвера USB Network Joystick. Для многих игр этого достаточно (например, для LEGO NINJAGO), просто заходим в настройки\контроллеры игры и назначаем кнопки
2) Если игра рассчитана на геймпад XBOX (например, Unrawel two), то нужно воспользоваться эмулятором x360ce (я использую x360ce_x64):
- подключаете геймпады, назначаете клавиши в GUI (необходимо использовать режим analog) и сохраняете (должен появиться\обновиться файл x360ce.ini рядом с x360ce_x64.exe)
- во вкладке Game Settings выбираете игру и ставите все галочки в XInput Files
- нажимаете Apply - в директорию с *.exe файлом игры должны скопироваться файлы: xinput1_1.dll, xinput1_2.dll, xinput1_3.dll, xinput1_4.dll, xinput9_1_0.dll
- туда же копируете файл x360ce.ini !
- закрываете x360ce
Всё, теперь после запуска игры она должна автоматически подхватить геймпады
3) Если игра старая и не поддерживает геймпады (например, симуляторы денди, sega, Little Fighter 2 и т.п.), то можно поставить JoyToKey и переназначить кнопки геймпада на клавиши клавиатуры. ВАЖНО! JoyToKey нужно запускать от имени администратора.
Брал для Sega мини. Определился сразу в обоих портах. Во всех играх виден, все кнопки и стики функционируют, в том числе в играх для PS1. Работают переключатель D input, X input, но это ожидаемо не помогло при подключении к Xbox360- не видит ни в каких портах, в настройках тоже. Не беда. В целом очень доволен, очень играбельный джойстик. Шнур большой- 180см. Инструкция ну очень мелким шрифтом, еле разглядел при увеличении, пришлось фоткать. На всякий случай напоминаю - переключение режимов при ДЛИТЕЛЬНОМ (3с)нажатии на центральную кнопку. Берите!
нет, если придираться то я человек который играл на геймпаде еще на ps 1 и для меня не привычно обозначение кнопок цифрами
Комментарий:
вообщем оооочень понравился, читал что у парня были проблемы с софтом на Винде 11 немного очканул, но нет, забрал геймпад маркет как всегда красавцы все вовремя, пришёл домой распаковал, воткнул в USB разъём и вуаля, покупал специально для игры sifu, зашёл в игру все само определилось что подключен геймпад без всяких драйверов и подобных танцев с бубном! Вообщем очень доволен единственное что не привычно после Клавы я написал в недостатке а так 10 с +
Дешевый, легкий, все кнопки определились, обратная связь работает.
Недостатки:
Нет
Комментарий:
У меня есть Oculus quest, и многие игры с PC, не удобно управлять, либо не управляются родными манипуляторами. Опыт игры с джойстиком был только на Xbox, поэтому перед покупкой беспроводного джойстика, решил купить этот, что бы попробовать, насколько это вообще удобно. Мне понравилось. Отзыв на кнопки хороший, все кнопки работают. Обратная связь чувствительная. Сам джостик легкий, руки не устают. Решил оставить его для сидячих игр. Сколько проработает-посмотрим.
всё хорошо,кнопки работают все,стики тоже без проблем
Недостатки:
за эти деньги не обнаружено.
Комментарий:
поголовно пишут про какой-то запах,прям неженки такие все,ничем он не пахнет и тем более не воняет. за эту цену, геймпад отличный,вопрос только в том, сколько проработает. Я доволен и рекомендую.
хочу дополнить,спустя неделю пользования каждый вечер данного геймпада,левый стик стал дергать персонажа вправо,маленькими рывками,не постоянно,но переводчески, неприятно играю в рпг,там это не критично,но вот евро трак симулятор или шутер уже неприятно очень. а в целом геймпад достойный.
+ Стоимость
+ Отсутствие неприятных запахов
+ Формфактор
+ Длина шнура
+ Долговечность (в своем ценовом сегменте)
+ Легкая настройка в сторонних программах
Недостатки:
- Порой приходится производить дополнительную настройку для некоторых игр
- Резинка под крестовиной слабое место
- Не смотря на низкую стоимость именно эту модель подделывают из-за популярности, есть шанс купить подделку (хоть и невысокий)
Комментарий:
Это определенно лучший геймпад за свою цену. Этакий боевой товарищ. Он точно не подойдет для притязательных любителей файтингов (впрочем они итак знают от скольких начинается стоимость их геймпадов) и навряд ли подойдет в играх, где нужна очень четкая работа стиков (т.к. они такую точность не дают).
А для всего остального - идеальный выбор! Для ретроигр и вовсе лучше не придумаешь. Его действительно по умолчанию понимают не все современные игры. Вместе с тем он легко работает с программами типа Xpadder и настраивается как душе угодно.
Сам пользуюсь им чаще для ретро игр . Нравится наличие всех необходимых кнопок. Как правило остаются кнопки для функций эмулятора. Легко настраивается в эмуляторах и сторонних программах.
кроме вопроса поивиброотклику вопросов к данному джойстику не имею. Вибра ни как не проявляет себя не в каких играх. в которых точно он должен быть!
как их умудряются ломать остается загадкой. сделан из хорошего материала.
по поводу запаха. Да. от него есть и не совсем приятный запах, но это надо в нос засунуть пульт чтоб его унюхать. на расстоянии 10см 500% ни каких посторонних запахов не чувствуется. это уж не говоря про то что он во время игр находится на расстоянии минимум пол метра от лица.
соотношение качество/цена, долгоиграющие стики, качество сборки, хорошо упакован
Недостатки:
за такую цену их просто нет
Комментарий:
отличный геймпад, стики надёжные прошли проверку временем, не разбалтываются, запаха из коробки практически не было, вибрация присутствует на должном уровне, с мёртвыми зонами в моей практике проблем не обнаружил, беру уже второй такой, первый со скидками за 450.если вам нужен надёжный геймпад из низкого ценового диапазона то за эту цену это он
Добрый день! Спасибо за фотографии! Рады, что вам понравилось. Компания Defender желает вам хороших покупок!
Добрый день! Спасибо за фотографии! Рады, что вам понравилось. Компания Defender желает вам хороших покупок!
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