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Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
огромные шипы, после 2 лет ни один шип не вылетел, протектор как новый. износостойкость, управляемость, эта резина позволяет чуть больше. предсказуемое вождение. со своим стилем езды всё таки подизносил резину, лишился пары шипов. но всё равно это не чета предыдущему моему опыту шипованных шин.
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эта резина реально шумна. когда медленно едешь по асфальту во дворе, есть ощущение, что едешь, переламывая чьи то кости. на скорости на асфальте кажется, что пришёл конец всем подшипникам. после летней долго привыкал. может понадобиться много грузиков для балансировки.
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раньше ездил на kia cerato 2014 на липучках бридж blizzak wrx. дважды на ней был в дтп(лед и аквапланирование). купил б/у kia cerato 2017г, с пробегом 22,5 т.км. на 17" литье на лете. в подарок отдали данную резину на 16" штампах от прошлого владельца. не парился. пришла зима, надел эти б/у тапки, которым уже было 2 года. офигел(см достоинства), когда поехал, офигел второй раз(см. недостатки). я реально ездил на балансировку ещё раз, и ходовку смотрел, не верил, что так может быть. хотел было продать колеса и купить липучку на 17" литье.в том числе расстраивало производство у нас же в воронеже. зима у нас не наступала никак, не давала проверить резину в бою. но пару раз выпадавший снежок давал поиспытывать её немного во дворах. но вчера произошло то, что заставило меня написать этот отзыв. возвращался с москвы в жуткий снегопад. всю дорогу 500 км валило сильно и температура -2-0, снежная каша с наледью местами. и знаете что? эта резина на едет за тебя. но она позволяет тебе немного больше. я ехал всю дорогу быстрее потока. да, я держал руль так крепко, как мог, при перестроениях между полосами или колеями. а когда я ехал вровень с другим похожим корейским авто, и внезапно перед нами оказалась пробка, оба ряда заняты(впереди ДТП, всё стоит). и мы начали останавливаться. я остановился нормально. с абс и аварийками, но нормально. а человек въехал в фуру на моих глазах. и тогда я понял, что фиг с ним с шумом, лучше громко ехать по асфальту, чем в тишине въехать в фуру в настоящих полевых условиях. однозначно когда буду менять, буду искать такую же резину. в сочетании с прямыми руками и ESP даже не на полном приводе она показала себя лучше чем любая резина, на которой я ездил раньше.
4 года назадВоронеж
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Очень крепкая и надежная; Уверенность на любой поверхности дороги; Кайф от быстрого вождения.
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Переобувая машину на третью зиму этими шинами, решил написать отзыв. До них 10 лет ездил по Москве исключительно на фрикционных липучках. Но начал замечать, что "не хватает" липучки даже в условиях города. То снегоуборочные пройдут и притрут сугробы к колесам машин. Последней каплей терпения стала поездка в Звенигород, в феврале 2018 года, когда был сильный буран и липучки оказались совершенно беспомощными - просто шлифовали снег со льдом и не могли сдвинуть машину. Машина была Audi Q3. В ноябре 2018 как раз покупался новый автомобиль Audi Q5 последнего поколения. К ним приобрел Ice Zero R19 на которых буду ездить уже третий сезон. За все время не потерян ни один (!) шип. 2 зимы и порядка 15 000 км. Честно проходил обкатку 700 км со скоростью 70-80 км./ч. Шины очень добавляют уверенности на загородной трассе, во дворах, где встречают разные неприятности от коммунальщиков. Она реально гребет и цепляется. По городу тоже себя отлично ведет себя, на асфальте прекрасно тормозит и разгоняется. Разницы с липучкой по цепным характеристикам не чувствуется. Боковины крепкие, если притрешься к бордюру - простительно. Кстати, в школе водительского мастерства Audi Quattro боевые машины обуты в эту резину. Кто не верит, можно посмотреть на ютубе ролики. Многие пишут про шум, гул. Да, он есть. Притом зависит от двух факторов - температуры за бортом и качества асфальта. Заметил если на улице диапазон от минус 5 до плюс 5 на скорости от 80 км/ч появляется гул. Если ударяют морозы за -10 шины становятся тихими. Также шум появляется если едешь быстрее 80 по гладкой дороге, например, новому асфальту. Но так как хорошего асфальта становиться все меньше и меньше, а зимы холоднее с этой особенностью можно смириться)) Да и как я понял, не бывает шиповок таки же тихих как липучки. Купил бы я сейчас эти шины? Пожалуй, нет)) Так как вышло 2 поколение этих шин, в которых заявлено снижение как раз этого пресловутого гула. Всем удачи на дорогах!
3 года назадМосква
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Управляемость - на льду, в снежной каше и на укатанном снегу машина идёт, как по рельсам. Износостойкость - откатываю второй сезон (в основном по асфальту, ибо теплая зима нынче выдалась), все зубы на месте Прочность - были и ямы, и ж/д переезды, и стыки на ТТК. Грыж, разрывов, порезов нет. Так что, вероятно, те товарищи, которые пишут про слабую боковину ездят по принципу "больше скорость - меньше ям"
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Тойота Камри, эксплуатируется в основном в Москве и области. Стиль вождения - спокойный, что-то среднее между пенсионером и гонщиком серебряной мечты. Максимальная скорость - 160км/ч, переставки только в крайних случаях (объехать препятствие), в поворотах максимум 80км/ч. В декабре 2018 пирельки купил спонтанно - ехал за бриджами. Но в магазине вместо бриджей, которые ВНЕЗАПНО кончились, предложили какой-то noname, рассчитывая, видимо, на то, что "раз приехал, значит обязательно купит". Но я отказался от нонейма, поехал в другой магазин. А там из приличных шин были только пирельки. Взял и сразу поехал в Муром. По дороге туда и обратно 2 случая экстренного торможения - никаких нареканий, машина остановилась, как посуху. При обгоне (выезд из снежной колеи) тоже никаких претензий - сцеп великолепный. В общем, на реально зимнем шоссе (снег, лёд, каша, снежная колея) забываешь о том, что едешь по зиме. Недостатки вытекают из достоинств. Не забываем, что это ШИПОВАННЫЕ шины: 1. До 40км/ч слышен цокот шипов, с 40км/ч начинается гул. Максимальные децибелы, на мой взгляд, в районе от 80 до 100км/ч, больше 100км/ч уровень шума спадает. По мне, так ничего страшного - музыку погромче и норм 2. Некоторые товарищи писали, что, мол, на асфальте без пробуксовки не тронуться. Вообще-то шипы из-за их конструктивных особенностей действительно ослабляют сцеп на асфальте, это закон физики. Так что если трогаться плавно мешает религия или подъехавший справа/слева и вызывающий на дрэг бмв/мерседес/ауди/выбери своё, то шипы не для вас. 3. Хорошие шины премиум-класса не могут стоить дёшево, поэтому и ценник на них не самый демократичный В общем, категорически рекомендую к приобретению
4 года назадМосква
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Купив шины данной модели, я убедился в том, насколько субъективны оценки многих пользователей не только этих шин, но и шин других производителей в целом, ведь у каждого свой стиль вождения и разный пройденный километраж. 1. Начну с шума, на который многие жалуются: любая зимняя резина будет шуметь особенно после перехода на нее с летней. Что касается данных шин, то не страшен черт как его малюют, ибо шум умеренный как в городе так и на трассе. Шум, кстати, это основная претензия комментаторов к этим шинам. Это шиповка, она должна шуметь как никак. 2. Шипы. Отъездил на шинах 3500 км. в городе и по трассе. Пока ни одного не потерял. Крупные шипы, за счёт чего я получаю уверенное сцепление с дорогой. 3. Мягкость. На 20-ти градусном морозе резина остаётся мягкой и не дубеет. 4. Устойчивость и, как следствие, предсказуемость. По снежной каше, по мокрому снегу, по заснеженной дороге, по снежной наледи машина идет уверенно. Доводилось проезжать по улице, где прорвало трубу накануне, и на дороге образовался толстый слой льда, автомобиль идёт ровно. Единственное, по голому льду замечено небольшое скольжение, но всего один раз и то на трамвайных путях. 5. Цена/качество. Тут без комментариев. 6. Особо хотелось бы подчеркнуть стиль вождения. Не нужно входить в поворот на 80-ти, ибо даже самая продвинутая шина не поможет. Самоуверенность - не лучший попутчик в дороге, рассчитывайте свои возможности. В целом же, остался очень доволен этими шинами. После родных колес с завода(17') также Pirelli подвеска стала значительно мягче. Стараюсь водить авто аккуратно, но бывает и агрессивная езда. Стаж вождения: 15 лет. Автомобиль Веста СВ Кросс. Всем удачи на дорогах!
3 года назадМосква
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Прикатав резину 500 км ,вы получите то что вам надо без потери шипов ,хорошую резину ,рулится не сказать что вау но рулится хорошо ,колейность чувствует но не критично, из колеи не выкидывает ,пусть народ не чешет ,шумности много да как самолёт ,но так и в Москве зим нет снежных ,а на голом асфальте и гул есть так ведь это шииипппыыы, на предыдущей машине откатал два сезона Москва Гродно ,выезд Москва каша на дороге -8-10 ,за смоленском снегопад -10-12 ад ,Гродно -25 ,совершаясь манёвры в повороте помните что это зима а не лето ,есть сносы да но это если ты влетаешь на 60-70 км/ч в поворот ,ну входи ты на 40 и всё ок будет, у меня так и было ни каких сносов звуков от ESP ,торможение да можно про.бать момент и увы досвидос ,смотри в оба а не в смартфон ,я сам такой бывает ...управляемость немного ватная ,шкода фабиа 2 ,курсовая 120 норма , по трассе где можно ,обгоны я их помню все ,уверенно машину чуствую без глупостей ,и всё ок ,конечно если гашетку передавить так и кинуть может ,мне понравилось управление по снегу ,просто зачёт, каша так себе руки в напряге ,но не критично ,асфальт на минусе я посчитал ватным управление ,на льду пробывал тормоз в пол с 60 на полегоне, мерел расстояние шипов до полной остановки работа ABS 100% 12 метров путь, повтор с прерывистыми нажатиями на педаль тормоза снизило путь до 10.5метра,,учитывайте про.б и скорость..а так мне резина помнраву выручила не один раз ,купил вчера в руси ещё 4 катка, на штамповку одел и смотрел баланс ,НА ШТАМПОВКЕ ПОВТОРЮ ,195/55/15,,самый большой груз был 25 на 15 грамм ,,показатели почти на всех 4 одинаковые ,,читаю отзывы и диву даюсь говорят что кривые не гоните ,,смотри при покупке и балансировке на катки и меняй если там яйцо ,да бывает так смотри и меняй это не запрещено,, мой стаж 20 лет будет в ноябре было много резины не буду говорить про ту резину что была до этого ,типо плохая а эта хорошая ,,я и на всесезонках гонял, помните СССР,всё зависит от нас с вами а не от резины ,,УДАЧИ НА ДОРОГАХ ..
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Шумна резина есть грех чего точить то ,шумит значит работает ...
6 лет назадМосква
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могилевский леонид, у меня глаза в трубочку свернулись пока дочитал. Бога ради, пишите разделяя текст на предложения!
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В своей активной автомобильной жизни успел поездить на разной резине в зимнее время - дешевой и подороже, на шипах и на липе. Последний раз отказался от липучки в пользу шипов в конце зимы 2018 года, года Москву завалило снегом по брови и все это потом усугубилось укатанным снегом местами до зеркала. Кое-как доездил тот остаток зимы на липучке и на 2019 год взял шипы. И можно было сказать, что не особо впакал, потому что как раз первый сезон на этих шинах шипы были актуальны поскольку постольку. Но тем не менее, решил что пусть уж шипы пару раз в зиму пригодятся, но будут. И вот эта зима показала, для чего все же нужны шипы и что их наличие многое решает. Я готов потерпеть определнные неудобства в межсезонье или в бесснежную зиму. Но безопасность и уверенность на скользкой дороге это первоочередное. Этой зимой не раз наблюдал как во дворах слой снега, а под ним ледяная корка. Мало того, что по снегу нужно выгрести, так еще и за этот ледок зацепиться. Сам выезжал без особых проблем, но видел и тех кто выехать не может. Несколько раз случалось помогать. При том, что резине уже идет третий сезон, шипов она фактически не растеряла и сохранила крайне приличную цепкость и проходимость, несмотря на возраст и пробег. Причем и в городе, на небольших скоростях, так и на трассе, где на обгонах спокойно прохожу снежные переметы между рядами.
2 года назадМосква
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Отличное сцепление на льду, отлично гребет по снегу, толстая боковина, отлично держаться шипы, медленно стирается, глубокий рисунок протектора.
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Шумит и гудит из за: 1. Агрессивного протектора со множеством кромок и ламелей. 2. Толстая пуленепробиваемая боковина. 3. Огромные когтеобразные шипы.
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Отличное сцепление на льду, лучше будет только хакка, мишки, контики и то не факт, отлично гребет по снегу, канешно не гудиер ультра грипп айс арктик с его тракторной елочкой, но не сильно уступает и пирелли стоят на трассе устойчивее из за центрального ребра курсовой устойчивости. Толстая усиленная пуленепробиваемая боковина, аля бриджстоун. Огромные когтеобразные шипы 130штук у 205/55/16. Выбирал между пирелли айс зеро, нордман7 и гудиер ультрагрип айс арктик, до этого катал нордман4, очень понравился, но когда попробовал пирелли айс зеро, понял что нордман4 намного хуже. Нордман7 имеет почти такой же рисунок, что и пирелли айсзеро, но нордман7 похуже держит на льду(шипы поменьше размером, хотя количество одинаковое 130шт, и резиносмесь не первого эшелона), по снегу пирелли проходимее немного. Плюсы у нордмана7 это шум поменьше из за более тонкой боковины, меньшего размера шипов, менее глубокого протектора.
Год назадПенза
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- Отлично держит заснеженную дорогу, гололед; - Устойчива к аквапланированию; - Отлично балансируется; - Адекватный ценник; - Высокий индекс максимальной скорости (210 кмч) - не для зимней дороги темп, но иногда бывает :)); - Программа гарантии от производителя - Tyre Life - замена поврежденной шины на новую бесплатно; Об износостойкости пока говорить рано, я проехал всего 1300 км на ней, но в целом резина внушает доверие, время покажет.
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Пока наверное, только один, как у многих тут замечено - шум. Но! Господа, надо правильно проходить обкатку и относиться к резине бережнее на первых километрах пути. Обкатывал на максимальной скорости 80-90 кмч с плавными торможениями и стартами, сначала в районе 80-90 кмч был дикий шум, потом граница "шумности" сдвинулась на интервал 90-110 кмч, а после 1000 км обкатки шум ушел на 130-140 кмч, и такое ощущение, что исчезнет и на том диапазоне. Буду наблюдать, но резина стала значительно комфортнее после "обкаточной" стадии.
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Машина BMW 3 серии в кузове F30, задний привод. Параметры - 225/45 R18. До этого 5 сезонов откатал на Michelin X-Ice North 2. В конце марта 2017 года (чуть-чуть до тепла не доездил) поймал яму и на одном колесе как полагается - вылезла грыжа, пришлось искать замену. В родном Новосибирске в наличии шины не нашел, только в Москве, а ждать доставки не было времени - искал то, что продавалось "под рукой". Выбор был между Хаккой 8ой (9ая как раз вышла, но еще не появилась в R18), и Ice Zero. У меня уже был опыт с Хаккой - 5ой, на других машинах (Volvo XC70, Volkswagen Passat, Toyota Camry). Резина в целом неплохая, но надо отдать должное маркетологам - процентов 25-30 от стоимости берут с потребителя за бренд. Был опыт в общем, и с Pirelli - отъездил несколько сезонов на Pirelli Winter Carving, и она мне тогда нравилась. Решено - сделано. Купил комплект, вышел он мне в моем размере в 44000 рублей.
6 лет назадНовосибирск
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несколько месяцев
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1. проходимость (4+ балла)(в Москве нынче зима показала какой она должна быть в России) - ни разу ни при каких обстоятельствах не было ни намека на "ой! сели!ОЙ! не едет" 2. долговечность (пока 5 балов) - за 5 месяцев эксплуатации (середина октября 17 по февраль 18 все шипы на месте, пару недель назад жестко притер оба диска к заснеженному бордюру - подумал что ппц и резине - ничего подобного- только диски) 3. вектор движения (4+ балла) - ни разу даже на заснеженной подмосковной дороге, коротая грейдера в глаза не видела и тракторА видела может быть только издалека, изношенная потрепанной колеей (примерно 5-10 см) бешено пытающихся из нее вырваться машин - на такой дороге машине шла уверенно 60 км/ч и из колеи выбиралась по первому требованию руля 4. цена (резина однозначно премиум (как мы любим говорить или нам любят маркетологи внушать)) у меня размерность Pirelli Ice Zero 245/45/18 - за балон в октябре 17 года отдал 9300 - правда производство Россия и 2014 год 5. аква-планирование (5 баллов)- испытывал на скорости более 80 км/ч 6 . разгон - торможение на асфальте ( 5 баллов), - если не давить в пол нет проскальзывания
Недостатки:
многие пишут про шумность - это смех,- принимая во внимание переменчивую погоду нашей зимы и пред / пост сезонья Лично для меня выбор очевиден - лучше быть немного в дискомфорте, чем немного поломанным 1. торможение на снегу 4+ с 40 км/ч 2. торможение на снегу с ледяной подошвой 4- с 40 км/ч
Комментарий:
к слову добавить- авто Audi a6 c7 3.0 tdi с текущими погода я пришел для себя в выводу , что курсовую устойчивость при таких погодах лучше выключать до 40 км/ч - только мешает при отключенной курсовой устойчивости (повторюсь, только в текущих климатических реалиях и ТОЛЬКО до МАКСИМУМ 40 км/ч полный привод и выше упомянутая резина очень и ОЧЕНЬ прогнозируемы )
6 лет назадМосква
Достоинства:
цена, качество изготовления, глубокий протектор, гарантия производителя
Недостатки:
нет
Комментарий:
Решил не откладывать этот момент на осень, т.к. подозреваю, что изменение в ценах все-таки будет. Заказ доставили быстро, колеса упакованы в пленку. Порадовала дата изготовления - февраль 24! Качество литья отличное! Резина отбалансировалась без проблем, биений нет совершенно. т. к. зима и лето у меня шины каждые на своих дисках, этот вопрос решил сразу же. От шиномонтажки проехал до гаража порядка 10 км на этих шинах - вполне годные и не сильно шумят по чистому асфальту. Резина сразу отправилась на хранение в подвал под гаражом, давление сбросил до 1 атм. В условиях зимы ходовые качества испытаю в конце года. Спасибо консультанту, который прояснил насчет гарантии завода — ее активировать надо в течение месяца после покупки, не позже.
3 недели назадМосква
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