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Процессор AMD Ryzen 5 3600 AM4,  6 x 3600 МГц
Процессор AMD Ryzen 5 3600 AM4, 6 x 3600 МГц
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Стабильность проверял 8 часов в Prime95 в custom режиме со стрессом памяти и процессора.\n4400mhz по CPU брать, в моем случае, бессмысленно, стабилизировать систему на данной частоте не удалось, потому что жор вольтажа 1.3000 вольта, температуры выше допустимых, поэтому я остановился на 4300.\n\nUPD: Всё-таки данная память работает не выше 3600. 3800 прайм 9 часов не проходит.","pro":"Быстро по сухим данным.\nСборка на бюджетной MSI B350 Tomahawk (плата с весьма посредственным питальником). DDR4 на чипах Hynix-AFR в разгоне по калькулятору до 3800MHZ FCLK 1900 и делитель один к одному. Проц взял 4400MHZ по всем ядрам на 1,250 вольта, но при прохождении Prime95 стабилен и адекватен по температурам на 4300MHZ при 1.2000v. 10ая Винда со всеми последними обновлениями. Кулер от Noctua NH-U12A. Свежие, на момент написания отзыва, драйвера и урезанный БИОС (Click Beta Bios). Процессор завелся на материнке без танцев с бубнами. Прирост производительности от предыдущего процессора (R5 1600) около 25 процентов, что очень ощутимо мониторится в играх и рендере. Проц горяч, но с учетом того, что он в разгоне. При той же производительности, что и у R5 1600 будет ледяным, поэтому можно настроить под себя соотношение температура/производительность. Также проверил влияние разгона памяти на производительность - от 3200MHZ XMP до 3800 по калькулятору, прирост составил более 15 процентов. Температура в стрессе Aida64 на всю систему вместе с видеокартой в корпусе с 5 вентиляторами и 2-мя на кулере составила в среднем 68 градусов.\n\nПервичные замеры производительности:\nAssassin`s Creed Origins 13100 (максимальные настройки, но 50 процентов рендеринга. Тест без упора в видеокарту) \nAssassin`s Creed Origins 11400 (1920 на 1080, настройки максимальные) \nCinebench R20 3981 баллов","contra":"Нет недостатков. Есть особенность архитектуры, которые неплохо бы знать. Вставил и забыл тут не очень сработает, нужно немного поиграться ручками, чтобы было всё совсем отлично. Подробности добавил в комментарий.","type":1,"usage":0,"votes":{"agree":263,"reject":17,"total":280,"isActive":true},"photos":[{"gradeId":101914151,"orderNumber":0,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"1656890","imageName":"2a000001700b6b14bb2a119065790676e400"},{"gradeId":101914151,"orderNumber":1,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"2268252","imageName":"2a000001700b6b15fb2e2074ca45ea56e88e"},{"gradeId":101914151,"orderNumber":2,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"200370","imageName":"2a000001700b6b786a77680113e57b310f15"},{"gradeId":101914151,"orderNumber":3,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"223176","imageName":"2a000001700b6b82759b1f6b6a40b696298b"}],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Москва"},"factors":[{"factorId":2019,"value":5,"title":"Тепловыделение","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":2021,"value":5,"title":"Возможность разгона","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null}]},"106724160":{"entity":"review","id":"106724160","isCpa":false,"recommend":true,"productId":508275153,"userId":471209476,"anonymous":0,"created":1591064407000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Когда стоял выбор между R5 2600 / LGA2011v3 и какой-нить Xeon / R5 3600 долго перебирал, но в итоге остановился на 3600 потому что:\n1. Производительность на ядро (игрухи ага).\n2. Платформа ещё проживёт как минимум одно поколение (Zen 3).\n3. Цена не запредельная\n4. Новое железо с гарантией и всё такое.\nХочу подтвердить и предупредить, если вы хотите вытащить из R5 3600 всё, нужно будет колдовать с разгоном как проца так и памяти. Из этого вытекает два следствия: на матери и памяти сильно сэкономить не получится. Поэтому взял entry level x570 MSI X570-A Pro и HyperX KHX3333C16D4 2x8Gb. Почему их, да всё просто, то куда я изначально нацелился (Asus B450 TUF pro и Crucial BallistiX Sport) пораскупили или неадекватно задрали цену. Получилось ли сильно хуже? Я думаю нет, тем более X570 всё же сам по себе иметь неплохо. Мать со средним в сегменте питанием, разумеется держит 3600 легко. Благодаря отличному БИОС MSI путём довольно не быстрого подбора настроек (где то три дня в общем заняло) процессор берёт 4.4Ghz при 1.2V, при этом не долбится в 85C (Dark Rock 4). Память работает на 3800Mhz с таймингами 16-19 при SoC 1.1V и напругой 1.39V. При разгоне памяти следует помнить, что выше 3600 включается делитель, который снижает производительность, поэтому частоту Infinity Fabric нужно уровнять с DDR и в 99% случаев выставить V SoC. CPU тесты Prime95 не проходит, но всё остальное работает железобетонно от OCCT/TM5 до 3DMark, про игры и говорить нечего. Стоит ли жертвовать \"бесплатной\" производительностью или повышать напряжение, что неизбежно повысит температуру ради прохождения формальной синтетики? Я уверенно ответил на это нет, ибо в реальной работе система работает очень стабильно, ни единого разрыва, как говорится.\nВ целом, проц оправдал все ожидания, тащит все игры, для 1080ti его с головой хватает. Думаю, данный конфиг спокойно проживёт 2-3 года, после чего, скорее всего заменится на старший Райзен 4-го поколения, как раз, когда цена на него снизится. Амудэ радует.","pro":"Цена/производительность\nСвежая платформа с заделом на апгрейд","contra":"Зарезали 4.3Ghz в авторежиме.\nБоксовый кулер бесполезен, берите OEM.","type":1,"usage":0,"votes":{"agree":7,"reject":4,"total":11,"isActive":true},"photos":[{"gradeId":106724160,"orderNumber":0,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"1566581","imageName":"2a0000017272cd84b5cccd9004055c34da29"},{"gradeId":106724160,"orderNumber":1,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"2386291","imageName":"2a0000017272b4c12386dd63f87cb322c1d9"},{"gradeId":106724160,"orderNumber":2,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"1527381","imageName":"2a0000017272b49357046442d851dae62375"},{"gradeId":106724160,"orderNumber":3,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"1566581","imageName":"2a0000017272b48074aacf7e158f6035c539"},{"gradeId":106724160,"orderNumber":4,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"1540738","imageName":"2a0000017272b476138d607e6d723c31ade2"}],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Алматы"},"factors":[{"factorId":2019,"value":4,"title":"Тепловыделение","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":2021,"value":5,"title":"Возможность разгона","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null}]},"107025752":{"entity":"review","id":"107025752","isCpa":false,"recommend":true,"productId":508275153,"userId":41229846,"anonymous":0,"created":1591508298000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Мать ASUS TUF B450 Pro Gaming - хороша по всем параметрам, включая звук, всё тянет.\nОперативка так себе - Patriot Viper PV432G300C6K, тянет всего 3200 МГц на таймингах 16-18-18-36, тупо самый дешевый комплект на тот момент. Можно выжать ещё 10-15% из проца, если поставить память на 3600.\n\nКоротко про управление вольтажом. \nМало отключить PBO, надо еще LLC настроить, ибо PBO за разгон и лимиты отвечает, а не за мгновенные параметры питания. Мать в любом случае управляет питанием, повышая/понижая напряжение в момент нагрузок, но не забираясь выше лимита, и вот как раз его часто можно безопасно понизить. Про сложности управления питанием на микросхемах можете почитать на Хабре, статья \"Питание современных процессоров\" от 3.06.2020.\n\nПроц запускался и на невероятных 4600 при 1.275 В! Но тесты не проходил, естественно, тут же перезагрузка из-за нехватки питания. А при повышении до 1.35 В перезагружался уже от перегрева и ошибок. На 4500 работал, даже проходил тесты AIDA, кроме FPU64 - тупо не выдавал результат, пустое поле. 4400 должны быть стабильными много часов (для игорей самое оно), а 4300, полагаю, будут реально стабильны даже под суточными стрессами.","pro":"- Две недели чтения материалов и экспериментов - и вот на чипсете B450 разгон до 4450 МГц, с андервольтингом до 1.275 В, SOC 1.025 В, остальные напряжения также установлены вручную согласно рекомендациям из интернета. В работе стабильно. В простое и браузере - 38-42 градуса (что в разгоне, что без), это нормально. В играх, которые успел поиграть, загрузка не более 50%, обычно 15-25% (1440p, максималки), греется около 50-65 градусов, а под стресс-тестами в реальности никто не сидит часами. Если надо сутками видео кодировать / рендерить или другие проф. нагрузки, то требуется качественное охлаждение. В стрессах греется до 80-85. Но на то они и стрессы!\n- Даже без разгона проц весьма производительный и обгоняет прошлые серии восьмиядерников! При наличии хорошей материнки есть огромный запас на вырост, особенно для проф. деятельности. Если нужно дешево и сердито для домашней работы и многопотока, то лучше взять 2700X - вдвое дешевле, а попугаи те же. Обновляться с предыдущих поколений на 3600 смысла нет, берите сразу 3700X и выше. Но в играх 3600 немного лучше прошлых поколений.\n- Ручной разгон даст не только более ровный вольтаж и температуры, но и прибавку к скорости работы памяти! Разгон на 200-300 МГц да прибавку к ПСП 1000-1500 Мб/с, и снизил латентность не самых быстрых модулей Patriot 3200 МГц с 79 до 74 нс.\n- Чтобы избежать завываний кулера просто выставьте вручную скорости вентиляторов на материнке (у нормальных есть свои программы управления под Win, у ASUS это AI Suite 3).","contra":"- Температурный датчик врёт до +20 градусов, это известный косяк во всех Ryzen. Есть два значения температуры: CPU diode (на материнке) и обычный CPU Temp. Какая программа мониторинга на какое значение посмотрит - чёрт разберёт. Проц вырубается при 95, но та же прога CoreTemp накидывает к температуре 20 градусов, итого 115. Критическая температура - 75 (отображается как 95). Зачем так сделано? Вероятно, инженеры понимали, что Ryzen будут гнать, и решили перестраховаться от дураков снижением видимых лимитов.\n- Под нагрузкой дико греется даже в авторазгоне, причем от скорости вентилятора охлаждение слабо зависит. Кулер Gammax 300 под стресс-тестами даёт 80-90 градусов, а с автоматическими или высокими настройками LLC проц греется до 95 (реальных) и отключается. В играх 55-65, в простое 35-40, с предельных до нормальных сбрасывает за секунды, так что термопаста или плохая установка кулера тут не при чём, сам проц так греется.\n","type":1,"usage":1,"votes":{"agree":4,"reject":5,"total":9,"isActive":true},"photos":[{"gradeId":107025752,"orderNumber":0,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"1566581","imageName":"2a000001728d49500f1eb5b1e80eb2fe8be1"},{"gradeId":107025752,"orderNumber":1,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"200370","imageName":"2a000001728d494e32bc9bae8b765fec2729"}],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Москва"},"factors":[{"factorId":2021,"value":4,"title":"Возможность разгона","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":2019,"value":3,"title":"Тепловыделение","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null}]},"121209110":{"entity":"review","id":"121209110","isCpa":false,"recommend":true,"productId":508275153,"userId":157735497,"anonymous":0,"created":1612872647000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Советую к приобретению если у вас прямые руки и есть желание разбираться в разгоне \nЕсли нет желание не советую брать , будете мучаться от температур , они очень внушительные если не сделать как написал выше. \nВсем спасибо кто прочитает данные тест и оценит!!","pro":"Перечислять бесконечно можно, но скажу самые главные плюсы.\n1) Производительность без спорно\n2) Потенциал для разгона без спорно\n3) Поддержка от разработчиков без спорно\nНа данный момент процессор самый лучший среди конкурентов как по мне!!!","contra":"Из минусов скажу честно есть косяки от разработчиков.\nСамый жирный минус это плохой автобуст.\nВо-первых, если кто не знал то когда открываешь браузер или смотришь какое-то кино, то частоты процессора, то 3.6, то 3.8, то вообще 4.2 автобуст плохой .\nЛадно бы было всё так просто, но если автобуст работает то и напряжения меняется от частоты процессора.\nТо есть если автобуст дал частоту 4.2 то ждите напругу 1.52 - 1.56 в - это не нормально никак.\nЛечиться прямыми руками конечно.\nУбираем автобуст, ставим частоту 4.4 у каждого своя частота так как камни разные с завода и ставим 1.32 в напругу и вуаля процессора становиться топ среди своих братье. Сравнивается с Ryzen r5 3600x и хт (по фото все понятно будет )\nЕщё из минусов, то что цена большая к сожалению.\nБрал летом была цена 11500 - это топ цена, но к сожалению больше не найдешь за такие деньги(","type":1,"usage":2,"votes":{"agree":1,"reject":0,"total":1,"isActive":true},"photos":[{"gradeId":121209110,"orderNumber":0,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"2369747","imageName":"2a0000017775a892163c1c8f7655cc86fa97"}],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Тольятти"},"factors":[{"factorId":3971,"value":5,"title":"Производительность","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":2021,"value":5,"title":"Возможность разгона","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":2019,"value":3,"title":"Тепловыделение","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null}]},"124058943":{"entity":"review","id":"124058943","isCpa":true,"recommend":true,"productId":508275153,"userId":1130000028171506,"anonymous":0,"created":1616395438000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Брал на замену компа целиком, до этого был на FX-8320, приростом производительности ошеломлен. Камень стоит своих денег и покроет на ближайшие лет 5-7 с головой повседневные задачи.\n\nВ Cinebench R20 на бустовых частотах в 4.2ГГц набирает 3800баллов, что сравнимо с процессорами i7 9й генерации, что делает явный перевес в сторону AMD.\n\nЗавелся с без игр с бубном на материнке ASUS TUF B450M-PRO GAMING.","pro":"Достойная производительность, может смело конкурировать с новыми интелами i5 и i7 9й генерации, и даже самим ryzen 7, в целом, что в синтетических тестах, что в «живых».\n\nЦена по сравнению с конкурентами от интел намного приятней за солидную производительность.\n\nСам процессор вытягивает воспроизведение 8к видео 30фпс без задержек в стриме.\n\n12 потоков 6 ядер. на частотах от 3.6-4.2ГГц\n\nСистему, игры и задачи тянет без проблем в многозадачности, ничего не упало и не тормозило.\n\nБраузеры FF и Chrome с большим количеством вкладок не тормозили вообще. Страницы скролились без задержек и гладко, с воспроизведением видео и анимаций.","contra":"Как по мне камень несколько горячий под куллером DEEPCOOL GAMMAXX 400 BLUE BASIC, 120мм греется до 85 градусов в максимальной нагрузке.","type":1,"usage":0,"votes":{"agree":4,"reject":2,"total":6,"isActive":true},"photos":[{"gradeId":124058943,"orderNumber":0,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"329447","imageName":"2a0000017858ace4b23df43d8b73720034bf"}],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Краснодар"},"factors":[{"factorId":2021,"value":5,"title":"Возможность 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- Две недели чтения материалов и экспериментов - и вот на чипсете B450 разгон до 4450 МГц, с андервольтингом до 1.275 В, SOC 1.025 В, остальные напряжения также установлены вручную согласно рекомендациям из интернета. В работе стабильно. В простое и браузере - 38-42 градуса (что в разгоне, что без), это нормально. В играх, которые успел поиграть, загрузка не более 50%, обычно 15-25% (1440p, максималки), греется около 50-65 градусов, а под стресс-тестами в реальности никто не сидит часами. Если надо сутками видео кодировать / рендерить или другие проф. нагрузки, то требуется качественное охлаждение. В стрессах греется до 80-85. Но на то они и стрессы! - Даже без разгона проц весьма производительный и обгоняет прошлые серии восьмиядерников! При наличии хорошей материнки есть огромный запас на вырост, особенно для проф. деятельности. Если нужно дешево и сердито для домашней работы и многопотока, то лучше взять 2700X - вдвое дешевле, а попугаи те же. Обновляться с предыдущих поколений на 3600 смысла нет, берите сразу 3700X и выше. Но в играх 3600 немного лучше прошлых поколений. - Ручной разгон даст не только более ровный вольтаж и температуры, но и прибавку к скорости работы памяти! Разгон на 200-300 МГц да прибавку к ПСП 1000-1500 Мб/с, и снизил латентность не самых быстрых модулей Patriot 3200 МГц с 79 до 74 нс. - Чтобы избежать завываний кулера просто выставьте вручную скорости вентиляторов на материнке (у нормальных есть свои программы управления под Win, у ASUS это AI Suite 3).
Недостатки:
- Температурный датчик врёт до +20 градусов, это известный косяк во всех Ryzen. Есть два значения температуры: CPU diode (на материнке) и обычный CPU Temp. Какая программа мониторинга на какое значение посмотрит - чёрт разберёт. Проц вырубается при 95, но та же прога CoreTemp накидывает к температуре 20 градусов, итого 115. Критическая температура - 75 (отображается как 95). Зачем так сделано? Вероятно, инженеры понимали, что Ryzen будут гнать, и решили перестраховаться от дураков снижением видимых лимитов. - Под нагрузкой дико греется даже в авторазгоне, причем от скорости вентилятора охлаждение слабо зависит. Кулер Gammax 300 под стресс-тестами даёт 80-90 градусов, а с автоматическими или высокими настройками LLC проц греется до 95 (реальных) и отключается. В играх 55-65, в простое 35-40, с предельных до нормальных сбрасывает за секунды, так что термопаста или плохая установка кулера тут не при чём, сам проц так греется.
Комментарий:
Мать ASUS TUF B450 Pro Gaming - хороша по всем параметрам, включая звук, всё тянет. Оперативка так себе - Patriot Viper PV432G300C6K, тянет всего 3200 МГц на таймингах 16-18-18-36, тупо самый дешевый комплект на тот момент. Можно выжать ещё 10-15% из проца, если поставить память на 3600. Коротко про управление вольтажом. Мало отключить PBO, надо еще LLC настроить, ибо PBO за разгон и лимиты отвечает, а не за мгновенные параметры питания. Мать в любом случае управляет питанием, повышая/понижая напряжение в момент нагрузок, но не забираясь выше лимита, и вот как раз его часто можно безопасно понизить. Про сложности управления питанием на микросхемах можете почитать на Хабре, статья "Питание современных процессоров" от 3.06.2020. Проц запускался и на невероятных 4600 при 1.275 В! Но тесты не проходил, естественно, тут же перезагрузка из-за нехватки питания. А при повышении до 1.35 В перезагружался уже от перегрева и ошибок. На 4500 работал, даже проходил тесты AIDA, кроме FPU64 - тупо не выдавал результат, пустое поле. 4400 должны быть стабильными много часов (для игорей самое оно), а 4300, полагаю, будут реально стабильны даже под суточными стрессами.
3 года назадМосква
Комментарий 103240184
Привет! Думаю, после твоих скриншотов 98% владельцев Ryzen 5 3600 сильно взгрустнули) Думал у меня удачный вариант: брал 4300 при 1.25, но после пару вылетов пересмотрел подход к тестированию и уже не берет 4300 при 1.33 (дальше не стал), грешу на мат плату asrock B450 Steel Legend у нее слабая питалка 4 фазы. Хочу поменять на ASRock X570 Taichi или ASUS Х470 ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO, склоняюсь больше к первой. Посоветуй что лучше взять исходя из своего опыта или может другое предложи. И еще просьба: либо поделись источниками по настройкам либо обозначь наиболее важные моменты к настройке в биосе (что нужно добавить к CPU Cor Voltage; LLC; SOC). На Хабре, статью "Питание современных процессоров" прочитал, но практической пользы не сильно увидел, разве что лишний раз убедился что нужно мать менять. Честно, полгода назад тоже неделю/2 вопрос изучал и делал вроде все по феншую, но твои частоты и не снились.
Привет! Думаю, после твоих скриншотов 98% владельцев Ryzen 5 3600 сильно взгрустнули) Думал у меня удачный вариант: брал 4300 при 1.25, но после пару вылетов пересмотрел подход к тестированию и уже не берет 4300 при 1.33 (дальше не стал), грешу на мат плату asrock B450 Steel Legend у нее слабая питалка 4 фазы. Хочу поменять на ASRock X570 Taichi или ASUS Х470 ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO, склоняюсь больше к первой. Посоветуй что лучше взять исходя из своего опыта или может другое предложи. И еще просьба: либо поделись источниками по настройкам либо обозначь наиболее важные моменты к настройке в биосе (что нужно добавить к CPU Cor Voltage; LLC; SOC). На Хабре, статью "Питание современных процессоров" прочитал, но практической пользы не сильно увидел, разве что лишний раз убедился что нужно мать менять. Честно, полгода назад тоже неделю/2 вопрос изучал и делал вроде все по феншую, но твои частоты и не снились.
Комментарий 104099155
Уже два месяца сижу на 4300 при андервольте 1.175v, PBO включен, LLC 2 и 3, остальное на Auto. Все тесты проходит, в играх на RTX 3070 при вертикальной синхронизации 60 fps на 1440p забит максимум на 50%, греется до 50-60 градусов максимум. Если выставлять LLC авто или высшие, то будет греться больше, а толку ноль. Если бы сейчас покупал, то взял бы 3700 Pro.
Уже два месяца сижу на 4300 при андервольте 1.175v, PBO включен, LLC 2 и 3, остальное на Auto. Все тесты проходит, в играх на RTX 3070 при вертикальной синхронизации 60 fps на 1440p забит максимум на 50%, греется до 50-60 градусов максимум. Если выставлять LLC авто или высшие, то будет греться больше, а толку ноль. Если бы сейчас покупал, то взял бы 3700 Pro.
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Быстро по сухим данным. Сборка на бюджетной MSI B350 Tomahawk (плата с весьма посредственным питальником). DDR4 на чипах Hynix-AFR в разгоне по калькулятору до 3800MHZ FCLK 1900 и делитель один к одному. Проц взял 4400MHZ по всем ядрам на 1,250 вольта, но при прохождении Prime95 стабилен и адекватен по температурам на 4300MHZ при 1.2000v. 10ая Винда со всеми последними обновлениями. Кулер от Noctua NH-U12A. Свежие, на момент написания отзыва, драйвера и урезанный БИОС (Click Beta Bios). Процессор завелся на материнке без танцев с бубнами. Прирост производительности от предыдущего процессора (R5 1600) около 25 процентов, что очень ощутимо мониторится в играх и рендере. Проц горяч, но с учетом того, что он в разгоне. При той же производительности, что и у R5 1600 будет ледяным, поэтому можно настроить под себя соотношение температура/производительность. Также проверил влияние разгона памяти на производительность - от 3200MHZ XMP до 3800 по калькулятору, прирост составил более 15 процентов. Температура в стрессе Aida64 на всю систему вместе с видеокартой в корпусе с 5 вентиляторами и 2-мя на кулере составила в среднем 68 градусов. Первичные замеры производительности: Assassin`s Creed Origins 13100 (максимальные настройки, но 50 процентов рендеринга. Тест без упора в видеокарту) Assassin`s Creed Origins 11400 (1920 на 1080, настройки максимальные) Cinebench R20 3981 баллов
Недостатки:
Нет недостатков. Есть особенность архитектуры, которые неплохо бы знать. Вставил и забыл тут не очень сработает, нужно немного поиграться ручками, чтобы было всё совсем отлично. Подробности добавил в комментарий.
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Было много противоречивых данных, что процессор горячий словно инфернальный жар, говорили про несовместимость компонентов... По моему мнению, получился прекрасный процессор, который закрывает 90 процентов потребностей ПК пользователя. Очень важный момент - VRM материнской платы не греется вообще... Не поверил показателям мониторинга, открыл крышку корпуса, потрогал рукой материнку, где раньше притронутся было больно - там еле-еле тепло, что просто превосходно! Температура 40 градусов по датчикам. В стоке проц, в моём случае, использовать - бестолковая тема. Не работает тут "вставил и забыл", потому что напряжение на процессор подается запредельно большое, что совершенно неоправданно, и, соответственно, кулер начинает сходить с ума от температур. После отключения PBO, фиксации напряжения на 1,250, выставлении 4400 по всем ядрам и настройке вручную кривой вентиляторов, система работает сказочно. Спустя пару дней возни с разгоном: Обратил внимание, после сброса биоса к дефолтным настройкам вентиляторы так не шумят, как при первом запуске процессора. Есть подозрение, что изначально не до конца встали дрова на чипсет, теперь напряжения не скачут до 1.450, что приводит к выводу о том, что история с "вставил и забыл" здесь может быть вполне уместна, но если есть возможность разогнать, лучше это сделать, профит ощутимый. Спустя неделю: Удалось стабилизировать процессор на частоте 4300mhz при 1.2000v и при LLC2, память завелась на 3800mhz 1900 FCLK при 1.45v и LLC2 c 16-18-19-19-40 и ужатыми вторичными таймингами, для этих чипов (HYNIX-AFR) результат превосходный. 53000 на чтение, задержка 65 ns. Стабильность проверял 8 часов в Prime95 в custom режиме со стрессом памяти и процессора. 4400mhz по CPU брать, в моем случае, бессмысленно, стабилизировать систему на данной частоте не удалось, потому что жор вольтажа 1.3000 вольта, температуры выше допустимых, поэтому я остановился на 4300. UPD: Всё-таки данная память работает не выше 3600. 3800 прайм 9 часов не проходит.
4 года назадМосква
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Добрый вечер, если не секрет, что за память у вас? Я так понимаю это не самые дешевые плашки с радиаторами из любого сетевого магазина? А то у меня тоже hynix, то ли AFR, то ли CJR, не гонятся выше 3200 никак (но у меня 1600 af)
Добрый вечер, если не секрет, что за память у вас? Я так понимаю это не самые дешевые плашки с радиаторами из любого сетевого магазина? А то у меня тоже hynix, то ли AFR, то ли CJR, не гонятся выше 3200 никак (но у меня 1600 af)
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Евгений, Взять дешевую мамку, но зато кулер дороже процессора, это просто Мегамозг!
Евгений, Взять дешевую мамку, но зато кулер дороже процессора, это просто Мегамозг!
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менее месяца
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- Мощность. Да, за свою цену и если ищем функционал НЕ только для игр - линейка Ryzen вообще является для вас лучшим выбором. - Потенциал разгона - да, он есть, если материнская плата позволяет, а так же охлаждение.. Но о нем позже :) - Большинство материнок из-за хайпа вроде как работают с процессором в дружной паре с коробки, но такие моменты лучше контролировать, на некоторых сайтах это выносят отдельной строкой. - Очень шустрый. Опять таки, очень субъективно, я до этого сидел аж на доисторических fx 8xxx(нет, не баловался разгоном, просто хватало). Но работа даже в простейших задачах, а вернее скорость этой работы - просто совершенно другой уровень, да и в играх что попробовал даже с моим железом - которое не особо крутое, меня более чем устроило, с учетом того что в супер графонистые игры я не играю, тк располагаю все лишь 1660 (даже не Ti или Super). - Все же в спецках вроде обработки видео и фото он на голову выше Интеловских моделей в ценовом сегменте.
Недостатки:
- Температура. Это не совсем минус, скорее... Следствие моей глупости. НЕ СМЕЙТЕ брать BOX версию с АМДшным кулером. На момент моей покупки, бокс версия стоит на 1.300 дороже, чем ОЕМ. И, казалось бы, это не дорого, но... Лучше взять какой-нибудь DEEPCOOL 400 или PCCOOLER 5 или 6 серии. Да, они стоят где то дороже на, ну, не знаю, в зависимости от модели 300-700 рублей (т.е. 1600 - 2000 ) и охлаждать будут прям ЛУЧШЕ. Если не хочется верить моим оценочным суждениям - в интернете полно тестов со скринами, в добрый путь. Если еще у вас и корпус mATX, а хочется 120 вентик, то конечно PcCooler из башенных взять лучше всего - у него высота всего 148 мм ( у серии 5 так точно, за 6 не ведаю). - Помимо всего прочего, это наверное вариант для... Ну, не знаю, компьютерных гиков? Наверное в большинстве случае Райзен заставит вас поиграть с настройками биоса, с вольтажом процессора и множителем, который тут разблокирован. Плюс в копилку Интела - там, наверное, таким страдать не нужно будет. Но в то же время множитель там разблокирован исключительно в моделях с индификатором K на конце - например i7 8700k. Как бы и плюс в сторону АМД, но оно вам надо? Это уж сами думайте.
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- Наверное лучший вариант, если вы собираетесь делать на компьютере что-то помимо игр и для вас мощность в сторонних не игровых приложениях важнее. Если собираете игровой комп, нормально в отличии от меня относитесь к Интел - наверное стоит посмотреть в сторону Intel, а конкретно i5 10400f, вроде по тестам она даже 0.1low выдает ОЩУТИМО лучше чем 5 рязань (а значит меньше просадок и больше стабильность), средний фпс тоже при прочих равных компонентах там выше, но это вроде и не новость. Но это если не играть с разгоном. Если вы немного поработаете ручками и головой, то наверное райзен способен сократить это отставание. Но опять таки, оно вам надо? :) Пусть каждый решит сам, однако я доволен более чем полностью. P.S. НЕ ПОКУПАЙТЕ BOX ВЕРСИЮ. Найдите НОРМАЛЬНУЮ башню для охлаждения, прям РЕКОМЕНДУЮ.
3 года назадКурск
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Товар продавца ОГО! Онлайн-гипермаркет
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Высокая производительность в играх и приложениях Поддержка PCI Express 4.0 Низкое энергопотребление и тепловыделение В комплекте идет кулер Wraith Stealth Разблокированный множитель для разгона Совместимость с разными платформами
Недостатки:
Он не имеет встроенной графики, что означает, что он требует дискретной видеокарты для вывода изображения на монитор. Он также не имеет самого высокого уровня IPC (инструкций на цикл), что означает, что он уступает некоторым конкурентам от Intel в однопоточных задачах. Его потенциал разгона также ограничен тепловыделением и качеством кулера, поэтому для получения лучших результатов нужно использовать более мощное охлаждение.
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В целом, я считаю, что AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - это один из лучших процессоров в своем ценовом диапазоне, который предлагает отличное соотношение цены и качества. Этот процессор способен справиться с любыми играми и приложениями, а также поддерживать новейшие технологии. Он также имеет низкое энергопотребление и тепловыделение, что делает его подходящим для маленьких и тихих систем. Однако, если вы хотите максимальной производительности в однопоточных задачах, встроенной графики или большего разгона, то вам стоит посмотреть на другие модели процессоров от AMD или Intel, которые могут быть дороже, но более функциональные.
6 месяцев назадПсков
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Товар продавца WITE
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Пришел в хорошей упаковке, доставили в целости и сохранности. Никакиъ повреждений не было
Недостатки:
Отсутствуют соовсем.
Комментарий:
Ну что-ж. В связке с Palit 1060 6gb + 16gb DDR4 - дает крутые результаты. Греется не сильно, гнать не стал т.к не опытный. В играх (везде 1920х1080 144hz) DayZ (Высокие) FHD - 80-120fps, просадки при толпах людей. CS2 (средне-низкие) - 300-350 fps, просадки при полной раскидке ARMA 3 (средне-низкие) - 60-80 fps, просадки рандомные. Dota 2 (ультра) - 140-180 fps, просады в замесах + почему-то при пульсе энигмы резко дропается до ста. TC RainbowSix Siege - 120-150 fps, вполне приятные играбельные фепсы, просадки от карты зависят.
2 недели назадСанкт-Петербург
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несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Похож на процессор как 2 капли йода. Встал в B550 как зайчик под ёлочку. Работает так, что пищит от удовольствия ребенок. Себе пищать я запретил.
Недостатки:
Упаковка. Случайно заказал через постомат. Испугался, когда осознал свою ошибку!
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По факту все отлично! Страх к постомату не оправдан, привезли, положили, забрал. Спасибо вам огромное! Искренне знал что не подведете!) Не подвели, курилки.))) Онлайнтрейд по железу, рекомендовал, рекомендую и буду рекомендовать! Прошу прощения за отсутствие фото. Все просто воткнул, работает, кайф!
Месяц назадСанкт-Петербург
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менее месяца
Достоинства:
Не разочаровал. С правильно подобранной памятью - зверюга! Все конкуренты от Intel сильно дороже. Те, что в данной ценовой категории, проигрывают на голову. Как подбирать память - см. в комменте.
Недостатки:
Прилагаемый в комплекте корпус кулера зачем-то умеет с одной стороны существенное утолщение. Я сдуру, не подумав, установил кулер так, что это утолщение мешает ставить память в 1-й слот DIMM. Переставлять не стал, т.к. на моей матплате память рекомендуют ставить, начиная со 2-го слота.
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Собрал систему: Rysen 5 3600, MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX, Crucial Ballistix Sport AT DDR4 DIMM 3200MHz PC-25600 CL16 - 16Gb BLS16G4D32AESTDDR4 ( 2 x 16 Гбт), MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER (не слушайте, что нельзя ставить NVIDIA на AMD!). Память очень долго искал подходящую, т.к. процессор капризный с точки зрения взаимодействия с памятью. Память на чипах Samsung B-die вы сейчас не найдете. Купите плашки, которые раньше выпускались с такими чипами, а там окажутся чипы Hynix. Это уже не риск, это теперь на 100% так. Смотрите, какую память можно ставить с Rysen и выбирайте себе из этого списка, но с учетом того, что чипов B-die уже не будет по разумной цене, а если возьмете рекомендованное, где раньше стояли такие чипы, то купите совсем не то, что рекомендовано (не с теми чипами): https://www.amd.com/ru/processors/ryzen-compatible-memory Также рекомендуют ставить память только одноранговую и 2 плашки, а не 4. После сборки запустил комп, все заработало на ура. Rysen 5 3600 для раскрытия своего потенциала требует память 3200 Mhz, и именно такую я и купил, надо лишь убедиться, что ваша материнская плата обеспечит переключение на нужный XMP-профиль. На моей плате нужный профиль работы памяти можно выставить одной кнопкой. Прогнал дюжину разных тестов как в стандартном режиме (выставляется автоматом 2400 Mhz), так и в игровом (3200 Mhz, проц разгоняется в игровых профилях до 4100 и выше). Прирост производительности достигал 20%. Т.е. получил то, что и планировал - полное удовлетворение от покупки. 8-) Особенно порадовали сравнительные тесты на https://www.userbenchmark.com , где моя сборка выглядела очень достойно даже на фоне гораздо более дорогих комплектаций. Вообще, там можно посмотреть в режиме реального времени результаты тестов счастливых обладателей новеньких компов и посмеяться, какую лажу впаривают производители доверчивым покупателям - и чем больше чел платит, тем у него хуже показатели в своей категории. 8-)
4 года назадМосква
Комментарий 103047035
Не подскажите что лучше купить 3600 или 2700
Не подскажите что лучше купить 3600 или 2700
Комментарий 103454177
#Rysen 5 3600 для раскрытия своего потенциала требует память 3200 Mhz# Так у этого проца есть ещё и потенциал ??? ))) Требует память 3200 Mhz - А почему не 4000 Mhz ??? ))) Паржал от души )))
#Rysen 5 3600 для раскрытия своего потенциала требует память 3200 Mhz# Так у этого проца есть ещё и потенциал ??? ))) Требует память 3200 Mhz - А почему не 4000 Mhz ??? ))) Паржал от души )))
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Рассчитывал на ограниченные финансы и лёгкий апгрейд компьютера жены, чтобы тянуло PUBG. Заменил видеокарту, материнку, ссд , оперативку и проц. В общем поменяли практически всё и игрушка стала летать. Проц тянет всё нормально на боксовом кулере. Иногда слышно, как включается вентилятор на большую скорость, но это бывает крайне редко.
Месяц назадМосква
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Товар продавца ОНЛАЙНТРЕЙД.РУ
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Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
относительно холодный, производительный за свою цену, справляется как в играх, так и в работе с фото, видео и 3-х мерной графикой
Недостатки:
в недостатки можно отметить наверное только возможность разгона, для меня она не сильно важна, так что не жалуемся
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быстрый процессор, особенно после обновки с xeon e5649. и при тех же частотах в разы холоднее. хотя чувствуется что кулеру сложно отводить тепло от данного процессора из-за маленькой площади кристалла, ТК после андервольта 1.52 и частоте 3.9 в стресс тесте аиды спустя 10 минут, имеем температуру 67 градусов и около 60w энергопотребления.
7 месяцев назадЕкатеринбург
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Отлично подошёл для частичной модернизации ПК сокет АМ4 на чипсете В350. Вместе с 16 гб памяти, SSD Nvme 512 гб и Radeon RX580 превратил устаревший компьютер во вполне игровую машину. Юная хозяйка осуществила свою мечту играть в Atomic Heart, хотя выигрывать у неё пока не получается.
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Но о нем позже :)\n - Большинство материнок из-за хайпа вроде как работают с процессором в дружной паре с коробки, но такие моменты лучше контролировать, на некоторых сайтах это выносят отдельной строкой.\n - Очень шустрый. Опять таки, очень субъективно, я до этого сидел аж на доисторических fx 8xxx(нет, не баловался разгоном, просто хватало). Но работа даже в простейших задачах, а вернее скорость этой работы - просто совершенно другой уровень, да и в играх что попробовал даже с моим железом - которое не особо крутое, меня более чем устроило, с учетом того что в супер графонистые игры я не играю, тк располагаю все лишь 1660 (даже не Ti или Super).\n - Все же в спецках вроде обработки видео и фото он на голову выше Интеловских моделей в ценовом сегменте.","contra":" - Температура. Это не совсем минус, скорее... Следствие моей глупости. НЕ СМЕЙТЕ брать BOX версию с АМДшным кулером. На момент моей покупки, бокс версия стоит на 1.300 дороже, чем ОЕМ. И, казалось бы, это не дорого, но... 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Он также имеет низкое энергопотребление и тепловыделение, что делает его подходящим для маленьких и тихих систем. Однако, если вы хотите максимальной производительности в однопоточных задачах, встроенной графики или большего разгона, то вам стоит посмотреть на другие модели процессоров от AMD или Intel, которые могут быть дороже, но более функциональные.","pro":"Высокая производительность в играх и приложениях\nПоддержка PCI Express 4.0\nНизкое энергопотребление и тепловыделение\nВ комплекте идет кулер Wraith Stealth\nРазблокированный множитель для разгона\nСовместимость с разными платформами","contra":"Он не имеет встроенной графики, что означает, что он требует дискретной видеокарты для вывода изображения на монитор. Он также не имеет самого высокого уровня IPC (инструкций на цикл), что означает, что он уступает некоторым конкурентам от Intel в однопоточных задачах. Его потенциал разгона также ограничен тепловыделением и качеством кулера, поэтому для получения лучших результатов нужно использовать более мощное охлаждение.","type":1,"usage":null,"votes":{"agree":1,"reject":0,"total":1,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Псков"},"factors":[{"factorId":3971,"value":5,"title":"Производительность","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":2019,"value":5,"title":"Тепловыделение","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":2021,"value":4,"title":"Возможность разгона","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null}],"orderShopId":622283,"orderBusinessId":893031},"276099214":{"entity":"review","id":"276099214","isCpa":true,"recommend":false,"productId":508275153,"userId":1051703028,"anonymous":0,"created":1706539740803,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Отлично подошёл для частичной модернизации ПК сокет АМ4 на чипсете В350. 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Все просто воткнул, работает, кайф!","pro":"Похож на процессор как 2 капли йода.\nВстал в B550 как зайчик под ёлочку.\nРаботает так, что пищит от удовольствия ребенок. Себе пищать я запретил.","contra":"Упаковка. Случайно заказал через постомат. Испугался, когда осознал свою ошибку!","type":1,"usage":1,"votes":{"agree":0,"reject":0,"total":0,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Санкт-Петербург"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":2478987,"orderBusinessId":892410},"296463529":{"entity":"review","id":"296463529","isCpa":true,"recommend":false,"productId":508275153,"userId":1896432364,"anonymous":0,"created":1712514284224,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Ну что-ж. \nВ связке с Palit 1060 6gb + 16gb DDR4 - дает крутые результаты. 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