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1. Вибрация. На низких оборотах вибрации (например, в MK11), джойстик буквально гремит. Да так сильно, что пришлось выключить вибрацию в Steam. Отдавал в рекомендованный Sony СЦ (сервис-центр) по гарантии, но его вернули со словами, что "сильно гремящая вибрация - норма". Тут одно из двух - или это действительно брак, который авторизованный Sony СЦ не хочет признавать, или качество вибрации по-умолчанию никакое. Даже в китайский джойстиках таких проблем с вибрацией нет. Я уже молчу про геймпад от Xbox, где нареканий к вибрации нет на любых её оборотах. Отмечу, что в играх, где используется только вибрация на высоких оборотах (например, в Ведьмак 3) - играть с вибрацией можно, но там, где есть вибрация на низких оборотах - её нужно или выключать, или играть в наушниках (но ощущения в руках от такой вибрации тоже не приятные).
2. Излишняя чувствительность крестовины. Нажимая любую навигационную клавишу нажимается и крайняя, если нажимать не строго по центру (при нажатии "влево", нажимается еще и "вверх"). Может и дело привычки, но на геймпаде Xbox крестовина нажимается адекватно, как и на геймпаде от Денди. Со слов того же СЦ - это "норма".
3. Если пошевелить выключенный джойстик горизонтально - внутри будет слышан стук. Как будто внутри джойстика не все компоненты прикручены на болты. Опять же, со слов СЦ - "норма".
4. При нажатии верхнего правого курка слышен легкий щелчок, которого нет при нажатии верхнего левого курка. Опять же - "норма", со слов рекомендованного Sony СЦ (он там один, при попытке сообщить о проблеме через их сайт).
5. Более сложное подключение к ПК, по сравнению с Xbox (но это ещё терпимо, т.к. делается один раз). Однако в играх на ПК геймпад все равно будет определяться как геймпдад Xbox - отсюда и неверные обозначения клавиш на экране - они будут предназначаться для Xbox.
6. Аккумулятор. Лучше брать геймпад на батарейах (их можно поменять на аккумуляторные), т.к. иначе игру вы сможете закончить только на клавиатуре (если на ПК).
Комментарий:
Взял одновременно два джойстика - Xbox и Sony. Это небо и земля. У Xbox тоже есть проблемы с качеством, но они в пределах разумного и не мешают играть. Играть во все игры удобнее на геймпаде Xbox (включая MK11). Удобство в руках, качество материалов, качество вибрации - всё это к геймпаду Xbox, но никак не к Sony.
Отдельно отмечу, наличие простая непримечательной упаковки, в которой геймпад не упакован плотно (он немного в ней болтается). Больше придирки. Однако, если нужен "вау-эффект" и гейпад берется в подарок - то лучше Xbox.
Причин покупать этот джойстик если вы играете на ПК - просто нет.
Ну, с чего бы начать.. наверное, с того, что это галимая подделка.
1) Взяли оригинальную коробку, на обратной стороне которой написано чётко и ясно " Кабель в комплект не входит" и додумались положить кабель в комплект.
Sony никогда кабель в комплект не кладёт. Это можно даже и у официалов узнать.
2) Наклейка со штрих кодом. Там даже есть специальное углубление под наклейку.. и даже тут умудрились наклеить её максимально неровно. Ну и штрих код палёный, собственно говоря.
3) Sony умеет останавливаться на одной качественно наклеенной наклеечке, а тут помимо того, что качеством и не пахнет, прилепили наклейку, которая больше похожа на наклейку от банана.
На оригинальном геймпада всегда одна наклейка со штрих кодом.
4) Вес. Заметно легче оригинала. Ну это вообще уже давно придумали как подделывать.. Просто фигачишь грузики. Но нет, тут даже на грузиках сэкономили.
5) Там много ещё мелочей, которые меня смутили, но мне кажется, что того, что я уже описал, хватит на то, чтобы понять, что тут магазин обманывает покупателя, продавая очень плохую подделку за стоимость, близкую к оригиналу.
Магазин крайне не рекомендую.
Товар сразу сдал и получил деньги назад, за что спасибо можно сказать только сервису Яндекса.
Надеюсь, мой отзыв не даст вам совершить покупку данного устройства в этом магазине.
На этом всё.
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При вскрытии в пункте выдачи сразу сложилось впечатление, что коробку вскрывали.
Высокая стоимость, скрипучая крестовина и корпус, кривоватые стики, неудобные кнопки Share и Options, проблемы при использовании на PC
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Покупал оригинальный геймпад, проверял все обозначения на коробке и самом геймпаде. После месяца использования начала довольно громко и раздражающе скрипеть крестовина при нажатии. В правом блоке каждая кнопка нажимается и чувствуются по разному, оба стика расположены немного под кривым углом относительно гнезда, кнопки Share и Options почти на одном уровне с корпусом, что неудобно, разве что к триггерам не могу придраться пока что. Пластик корпуса поскрипывает на стыках между передней и задней половиной геймпада. При подключении к компьютеру через Bluetooth есть сложности и необходимость использования стороннего ПО для эмуляции Xbox, без этого геймпад не будет определяться в играх, и то, в основном игры будет показывать кнопки от Xbox, хорошо, если в игре есть переключение иконок. С играми в Steam ситуация несколько проще в виду встроенного функционала для настройки геймпада. Пользы от тачпада особо не ощутил, подсветка только батарейку быстрее садит, да и в целом только мешает, поэтому всегда отключаю. В результате, имеем самый обычный геймпад со средним качеством сборки. Для игр на ПК лучше присматриваться к Xbox контроллерам.
P.S. Через некоторое время просто начал залипать левый стик, дёргается вперёд до максимального значения, играть таким геймпадом просто невозможно стало. Хотя я его использовал крайне редко, он просто взял и начал залипать спустя небольшой промежуток времени. Разборка и чистка аналоговых стиков не помогла.
Товар не является оригинальным, хотя в описании при покупке я проверял - ни слова об этом нигде не указано. Надписи на курках R1, R2, L1, L2 сделаны разными шрифтом, в отличие от оригинала. Так же отверстия динамика не пробиты полностью, заметен лишний пластик. Качество сборки на 3, острые и неприятные швы. Ну и финальный признак - у оригинальных джойстиков значок USB является впуклым, а у купленных джойстиков он выпуклый (фото прилагаю, черный - оригинал)
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Для простых аркад может и подойдёт, но для шутеров - не вариант, плавность хода стиков плохая + большая мертвая зона. Буду возвращать. 1 звезда только из-за продажи реплики под видом оригинала. Не надо так делать. UPD.: заказал на этот раз черный вариант, думал что продавец другой, ан нет - оказался тот же и опять прислал подделку, ещё и худшего качества. Вот интересно: маркет когда нибудь сообщит продавцу, что такие вещи надо указывать в карточке товара? 4 первых фото - это фото очередной подделки.
продавец мошенник под видом оригинальных геймпадов по цене 6000-7000 продаёт подделки. со всеми бонусами и новогодними скидками заплатил почти 2400 очень удачная покупка на новый год подумал. начну с упаковки помятая, никакого логотипа, голограммы и наклейки нет, качество обычное для Китая, на кабеле из комплекта нет надписи сони. далее сам геймпад. качество исполнения и на ощупь отвратительное, заусенцы, небрежности во всем. печать выполнена на дешёвом принтере. люфт, щели, криво установлены кнопки. кстати, приложил скрин с магазина где наглядно видно какие должны быть надписи EXT и гарнитуры на оригинале. да и мне есть с чем сравнить у меня есть два оригинальных геймпада.
и самое главное в меню устройств оно называется не dualshock 4 а wireless controller!!!
я покупал оригинал, если бы хотел купить подделку то заплатил максимум 1000.
по качеству исполнения это самая дешманская подделка которую можно было только слепить.
1. пластик с заусенцами на стыках, плюс многие детали кривые, за счет чего стыки не заподлицо
2. принты на кнопках кривые, по кружку видно что он смещён от центра кнопки.
3. надпись sony сзади напринтована криво.
4. наклейка со штрихкодом - обычная. У sony эта наклейка имеет матовую текстуру на черном фоне и глянцевую на штрихкоде.
5. при открытии коробки у геймпада криво стоял левый бампер. я его понажимал, оказывается он вобще там не закреплён и ходит ходуном вправо влево.
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Я бы закрыл глаза на всё, если бы знал заранее что покупаю подделку.
Магазином везде в названии указано sony. Посмотрел, у очевидно поддельных геймпадов указывается название модели без sony.
Повёлся на скидку и название, буду оформлять возврат.
Магазин не рекомендую, мало ли чего ещё они продают под видом оригинала...
Заказал 2 геймпада, пришли раньше времени, это отлично для доставки! Но произошло полное разочарование, когда их распаковал. Поставив на зарядку, сразу обратил внимание на то, что у одного геймпада отличается мерцание светового индикатора (не плавное) и отличается его цвет от оригинального (сравнивал со старыми - старые оригинал, и вторым новым). Как оказалось, мои подозрения были не напрасными, при проверке в UFC 4 этот геймпад так сильно жужжал при вибрации, что слышно было в соседней комнате. Также отличался звук нажатия кнопок, как на аналоге - щелканье дешёвого пластика. В общем продавец видимо рассчитывал, что при одном качественном, могут и не оформлять возврат. Но за 12 с лишним тысяч, я такое хавать не буду. ВОЗВРАТ!
Внутри б/у геймпад, возможно даже оригинал, но б/у.
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Вы серьёзно что ли? Меня ещё в 2012-м на алиэкспресс таким же способом китаец пытался кинуть) Только там был восстановленный телефон.
На тачпаде видна потёртость (да и на нём должна быть плёнка, если это оригинал, поправьте меня, если я не прав), по корпусу кривые не защёлкнутые швы (видимо китайский корпус не один в один подходит), криво наклеена наклейка с данными, чего на оригиналах в жизни не видел. Проверяйте тщательнее, господа, которые накидали пять звёзд и радостно подтвердили оригинальность.
Лично моё мнение - качественная подделка.
1. Стики и кнопки L3 и R3 - безопасная зона оч. большая, то есть при отодвигания стика его нужно отодвинуть прям на много, потому движение получается рывком (я хз как это объяснить, это нужно чувствовать, на оригинальном ты медленно спокойно отодвигаешь стик - персонаж по чуть чуть всё это время двигается);
2. То же самое и с кнопками L2 и R2, большая зона - рывки в играх, на оригинальном: чуть чуть нажал R2 - машина в GTA5 сначала поехала назад (типо снял с сцепления), а потом только добавил газ и поехал.
3. Шум и треск из динамика, при подключении гарнитуры пропадает, при отключении - снова появляется. Сам звук из динамика писклявый.
4. При подключении к зарядке - мигает и мигать будет пока ты не снимешь его с зарядке (на оригинальном когда джой зарядился он сам выключает индикацию)
5. Ооооочень тугая кнопка Touch панели, прям чтобы нажать на неё нужно приложить усилие.
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В общем, джой отвратный, в играх нормально не поиграть. Ощущение от нажатий в сравнении с оригинальным джойтиком - просто никакие, персонаж рывками двигается, кнопки одни туго нажимаются, другие (как X O и т.д.) тактильно чувствуются иначе...
Спустя 2 недели начал тупить L3 - персонажа тянет влево.
Использую только для MK11.
Почему не вернул? Потому что стало интересно посмотреть на внутренности этого безобразия. И параллельно заказал джой с Ozon из-за рубежа. И всем своим говорю, чтобы не покупали на Беру данные джойстики.
На фото - плата так располагась при первой разборке, т.е. она не фиксируется, вообще.
Не понимаю хороших оценок от пользователей - в нём ужасно всё: начиная от качества материалов, заканчивая компонентами из которых он состоит. Качество пластика - отвратительное. По ощущениям, даже упаковка дешевых товаров из Китая намного лучше по качеству, чем этот геймпад. Спустя 1 месяц пользования, у меня начала залипать кнопка, а затем я заметил, что стики находятся на разном уровне(фото прикрепил, если приглядеться - можно увидеть, что один стик повёрнут чуть выше, чем другой). Весь геймпад скрепит и трещит, если его крепко взять, большое количество люфтов - об этом я даже говорить не буду. Не стал отдавать его по гарантии, потому что там нервов очень много нужно потратить с их условиями возврата - разобрал сам, даже больше ради интереса. Как итог: то из чего он состоит еще хуже, чем я думал. Даже провода, которыми соединяются вибромоторы и плата - не внушают доверия, не говоря уже о том, что внутри там видно огромное количество отливов, как у самых дешевых девайсов.
В общем, за год использования дуалшок - один негатив и непонимание людей, которые утверждают, что это - идеальный геймпад. Сейчас он у меня работает с большой задержкой и может даже иногда отключиться, все друзья, у кого есть этот геймпад - говорят, что у них различные проблемы с ним. По моему мнению, это - одна из самых переоцененных вещей в мире.
3 года назад, Москва
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Ощущение от нажатий в сравнении с оригинальным джойтиком - просто никакие, персонаж рывками двигается, кнопки одни туго нажимаются, другие (как X O и т.д.) тактильно чувствуются иначе...\nСпустя 2 недели начал тупить L3 - персонажа тянет влево.\nИспользую только для MK11.\nПочему не вернул? Потому что стало интересно посмотреть на внутренности этого безобразия. И параллельно заказал джой с Ozon из-за рубежа. И всем своим говорю, чтобы не покупали на Беру данные джойстики.\nНа фото - плата так располагась при первой разборке, т.е. она не фиксируется, вообще.","pro":"В целом работает.","contra":"Лично моё мнение - качественная подделка.\n1. Стики и кнопки L3 и R3 - безопасная зона оч. большая, то есть при отодвигания стика его нужно отодвинуть прям на много, потому движение получается рывком (я хз как это объяснить, это нужно чувствовать, на оригинальном ты медленно спокойно отодвигаешь стик - персонаж по чуть чуть всё это время двигается);\n2. То же самое и с кнопками L2 и R2, большая зона - рывки в играх, на оригинальном: чуть чуть нажал R2 - машина в GTA5 сначала поехала назад (типо снял с сцепления), а потом только добавил газ и поехал.\n3. Шум и треск из динамика, при подключении гарнитуры пропадает, при отключении - снова появляется. Сам звук из динамика писклявый.\n4. При подключении к зарядке - мигает и мигать будет пока ты не снимешь его с зарядке (на оригинальном когда джой зарядился он сам выключает индикацию)\n5. Ооооочень тугая кнопка Touch панели, прям чтобы нажать на неё нужно приложить усилие.","type":1,"usage":1,"votes":{"agree":4,"reject":1,"total":5,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Москва"},"factors":[{"factorId":346,"value":1,"title":"Удобство управления","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":343,"value":3,"title":"Качество сборки","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null}],"orderShopId":602797,"orderBusinessId":725968},"110892857":{"entity":"review","id":"110892857","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":1728622897,"userId":62389087,"anonymous":0,"created":1597256038000,"averageGrade":1,"comment":"Взял одновременно два джойстика - Xbox и Sony. Это небо и земля. У Xbox тоже есть проблемы с качеством, но они в пределах разумного и не мешают играть. Играть во все игры удобнее на геймпаде Xbox (включая MK11). Удобство в руках, качество материалов, качество вибрации - всё это к геймпаду Xbox, но никак не к Sony.\nОтдельно отмечу, наличие простая непримечательной упаковки, в которой геймпад не упакован плотно (он немного в ней болтается). Больше придирки. Однако, если нужен \"вау-эффект\" и гейпад берется в подарок - то лучше Xbox.\nПричин покупать этот джойстик если вы играете на ПК - просто нет.","pro":"Красивая настраиваемая подсветка через Steam.","contra":"1. Вибрация. На низких оборотах вибрации (например, в MK11), джойстик буквально гремит. Да так сильно, что пришлось выключить вибрацию в Steam. Отдавал в рекомендованный Sony СЦ (сервис-центр) по гарантии, но его вернули со словами, что \"сильно гремящая вибрация - норма\". Тут одно из двух - или это действительно брак, который авторизованный Sony СЦ не хочет признавать, или качество вибрации по-умолчанию никакое. Даже в китайский джойстиках таких проблем с вибрацией нет. Я уже молчу про геймпад от Xbox, где нареканий к вибрации нет на любых её оборотах. Отмечу, что в играх, где используется только вибрация на высоких оборотах (например, в Ведьмак 3) - играть с вибрацией можно, но там, где есть вибрация на низких оборотах - её нужно или выключать, или играть в наушниках (но ощущения в руках от такой вибрации тоже не приятные).\n2. Излишняя чувствительность крестовины. Нажимая любую навигационную клавишу нажимается и крайняя, если нажимать не строго по центру (при нажатии \"влево\", нажимается еще и \"вверх\"). Может и дело привычки, но на геймпаде Xbox крестовина нажимается адекватно, как и на геймпаде от Денди. Со слов того же СЦ - это \"норма\".\n3. Если пошевелить выключенный джойстик горизонтально - внутри будет слышан стук. Как будто внутри джойстика не все компоненты прикручены на болты. Опять же, со слов СЦ - \"норма\".\n4. При нажатии верхнего правого курка слышен легкий щелчок, которого нет при нажатии верхнего левого курка. Опять же - \"норма\", со слов рекомендованного Sony СЦ (он там один, при попытке сообщить о проблеме через их сайт).\n5. Более сложное подключение к ПК, по сравнению с Xbox (но это ещё терпимо, т.к. делается один раз). Однако в играх на ПК геймпад все равно будет определяться как геймпдад Xbox - отсюда и неверные обозначения клавиш на экране - они будут предназначаться для Xbox.\n6. Аккумулятор. Лучше брать геймпад на батарейах (их можно поменять на аккумуляторные), т.к. иначе игру вы сможете закончить только на клавиатуре (если на ПК).","type":1,"usage":1,"votes":{"agree":3,"reject":0,"total":3,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Москва"},"factors":[{"factorId":344,"value":5,"title":"Количество дополнительных клавиш","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":345,"value":2,"title":"Простота подключения","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":343,"value":1,"title":"Качество сборки","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":346,"value":3,"title":"Удобство управления","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null}],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"116786617":{"entity":"review","id":"116786617","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":1728622897,"anonymous":1,"created":1605924766000,"averageGrade":1,"comment":null,"pro":"Не нашел, возможно, форма и размеры","contra":"Не понимаю хороших оценок от пользователей - в нём ужасно всё: начиная от качества материалов, заканчивая компонентами из которых он состоит. Качество пластика - отвратительное. По ощущениям, даже упаковка дешевых товаров из Китая намного лучше по качеству, чем этот геймпад. Спустя 1 месяц пользования, у меня начала залипать кнопка, а затем я заметил, что стики находятся на разном уровне(фото прикрепил, если приглядеться - можно увидеть, что один стик повёрнут чуть выше, чем другой). Весь геймпад скрепит и трещит, если его крепко взять, большое количество люфтов - об этом я даже говорить не буду. Не стал отдавать его по гарантии, потому что там нервов очень много нужно потратить с их условиями возврата - разобрал сам, даже больше ради интереса. Как итог: то из чего он состоит еще хуже, чем я думал. Даже провода, которыми соединяются вибромоторы и плата - не внушают доверия, не говоря уже о том, что внутри там видно огромное количество отливов, как у самых дешевых девайсов.\nВ общем, за год использования дуалшок - один негатив и непонимание людей, которые утверждают, что это - идеальный геймпад. Сейчас он у меня работает с большой задержкой и может даже иногда отключиться, все друзья, у кого есть этот геймпад - говорят, что у них различные проблемы с ним. По моему мнению, это - одна из самых переоцененных вещей в мире.","type":1,"usage":2,"votes":{"agree":7,"reject":0,"total":7,"isActive":true},"photos":[{"gradeId":116786617,"orderNumber":0,"valid":true,"namespace":"market-ugc","groupId":"200370","imageName":"2a00000175e892828ad0c1ec4ed22640f989"}],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Москва"},"factors":[{"factorId":346,"value":1,"title":"Удобство управления","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":344,"value":1,"title":"Количество дополнительных клавиш","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":343,"value":1,"title":"Качество сборки","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":345,"value":1,"title":"Простота подключения","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null}],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"135270576":{"entity":"review","id":"135270576","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":1728622897,"userId":305873978,"anonymous":0,"created":1627316438303,"averageGrade":1,"comment":"Покупал оригинальный геймпад, проверял все обозначения на коробке и самом геймпаде. После месяца использования начала довольно громко и раздражающе скрипеть крестовина при нажатии. В правом блоке каждая кнопка нажимается и чувствуются по разному, оба стика расположены немного под кривым углом относительно гнезда, кнопки Share и Options почти на одном уровне с корпусом, что неудобно, разве что к триггерам не могу придраться пока что. Пластик корпуса поскрипывает на стыках между передней и задней половиной геймпада. При подключении к компьютеру через Bluetooth есть сложности и необходимость использования стороннего ПО для эмуляции Xbox, без этого геймпад не будет определяться в играх, и то, в основном игры будет показывать кнопки от Xbox, хорошо, если в игре есть переключение иконок. С играми в Steam ситуация несколько проще в виду встроенного функционала для настройки геймпада. Пользы от тачпада особо не ощутил, подсветка только батарейку быстрее садит, да и в целом только мешает, поэтому всегда отключаю. В результате, имеем самый обычный геймпад со средним качеством сборки. Для игр на ПК лучше присматриваться к Xbox контроллерам.\n\nP.S. Через некоторое время просто начал залипать левый стик, дёргается вперёд до максимального значения, играть таким геймпадом просто невозможно стало. Хотя я его использовал крайне редко, он просто взял и начал залипать спустя небольшой промежуток времени. Разборка и чистка аналоговых стиков не помогла.","pro":"Играть удобнее, чем на клавиатуре","contra":"Высокая стоимость, скрипучая крестовина и корпус, кривоватые стики, неудобные кнопки Share и Options, проблемы при использовании на PC","type":1,"usage":2,"votes":{"agree":0,"reject":1,"total":1,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Новосибирск"},"factors":[{"factorId":343,"value":1,"title":"Качество сборки","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":346,"value":4,"title":"Удобство управления","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":345,"value":2,"title":"Простота подключения","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":344,"value":4,"title":"Количество дополнительных клавиш","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null}],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"251034090":{"entity":"review","id":"251034090","isCpa":true,"recommend":false,"productId":1728622897,"userId":224057746,"anonymous":0,"created":1699807880118,"averageGrade":1,"comment":"Я бы закрыл глаза на всё, если бы знал заранее что покупаю подделку.\n\nМагазином везде в названии указано sony. Посмотрел, у очевидно поддельных геймпадов указывается название модели без sony.\n\nПовёлся на скидку и название, буду оформлять возврат.\n\nМагазин не рекомендую, мало ли чего ещё они продают под видом оригинала...","pro":"Он хотя бы включился","contra":"по качеству исполнения это самая дешманская подделка которую можно было только слепить.\n\n1. пластик с заусенцами на стыках, плюс многие детали кривые, за счет чего стыки не заподлицо\n\n2. принты на кнопках кривые, по кружку видно что он смещён от центра кнопки.\n\n3. надпись sony сзади напринтована криво.\n\n4. наклейка со штрихкодом - обычная. 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